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U.S. Rep. Steve King: ‘Would there be any population of the world left’ if not for rape and incest?

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U.S. Rep. Steve King told the Westside Conservative Club Wednesday that humanity might not exist if not for rape and incest throughout human history.

“What if we went back through all the family trees and just pulled out anyone who was a product of rape or incest? Would there be any population of the world left if we did that?” he said in Urbandale, Iowa. “Considering all the wars and all the rapes and pillages that happened throughout all these different nations, I know that I can’t say that I was not a part of a product of that.”

The Catholic lawmaker argued that the bad circumstances of a baby’s conception does not negate their right to life.

“It’s not the baby’s fault for the sin of the father, or of the mother,” he said.

The nine-term congressman has a history of making controversial comments.

Later in January, the House passed a condemnation of white supremacy and white nationalism.

While he does not support the “odious ideology” of white nationalism, King said he supports his defense of the West, calling the United States “the flagship for Western civilization.”

King sparked bipartisan backlash in January for questioning during an interview with The New York Times how terms such as “white supremacist” and “white nationalist” became “offensive.”

The comments were quickly denounced and House Republicans responded by removing King from his positions on the House Judiciary, Agriculture and Small Business committees.


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  1. Well … yes.

    First of all, when man first began to separate from the apes we lived in small bands on the edge of ape habitat. There wasn’t the choice of lots of other non-family partners — or even ANY such, most of the time. Yet breeding early and breeding often was critical because as a new species we would have had low fertility and death came early for most of us. Most matings would have been with close relatives.

    Biologically there’s nothing much wrong with incest if you accept that a very high proportion of offspring will be defective and are prepared to have them die off quickly. Genes for good things are also concentrated by incest. Basically incest as a breeding tactic changes a species rapidly and any new species needs that.

    Much later we discovered farming and settled in villages. Fewer died very young and most of the rush-job changes in mankind were done or well along. There was more disadvantage from concentrating bad genes than advantage from possible good combinations. While the instinct for incest remained, we developed ‘reverse imprinting’ (Westermark effect): It is exceedingly rare for persons raised together to be sexually attracted to each other.

    These two opposing tendencies are still there today, in the form of what’s called ‘genetic sexual attraction’ — attraction between very close relatives who are reared apart up to age six or so — and ‘reverse imprinting’ which generally cancels out GSA in a child reared WITH the other family members.

    There are many species in which incestuous matings are common and they’re much more common in some human cultures than here in the west. Those human cultures display the problems and thus the reason the west’s social instincts and belief are strongly against incest.

    Bottom line: It is a CERTAINTY that we’re all products of incest deep in our past. You can question whether there’s incest in your history in the last hundred or even few hundred years, but if you go back 10,000 years, sis is probably her brother’s girlfriend or dad with daughter in many cases.

    Rape? Somewhat the same story. Where did genetic diversity come from if everyone in my band was ‘family’? From raids on neighboring bands, that’s where. They may smell weird but stealing their women was cool, even if they were not at first cooperative.

    Again other species and other cultures have some of the same practices, even today.

    None of that is to say that either incest or rape is ‘okay’ or should be a part of modern western culture. But when considering how we got here, King’s right: Without incest there’s NO chance our species would have made it and rape is probably almost as important.

    • Well, NO. Your argument is just as specious as the one being presented here for comment. In fact you’re basically parroting it. REALITY is that inbreeding concentrates defects as it causes stupidity, resulting in dead ends for those tribes that practiced it. Even little Amazonian tribes know this from ages of practical experience. Nor is there ever an excuse for rape. Okay? Got that?

      • Mankind is two million or more years old, depending on just what you call ‘man.’ During foundational years inbreeding (incest) would have been advantageous because fertility would have been higher and reinforcing desirable traits outpaced the loss of fitness effects. Given the horrific environment — most humans old enough to walk were probably eaten alive by predators or other people — the unfit rarely bred (and thus passed on their defects) anyway.

        Just a blink of an eye ago — maybe 10,000 years — we started to settle in villages. That brought together larger numbers of less-closely related mating partners at the same time it allowed the somewhat defective to survive longer and perhaps even to mate. Furthermore most of the best improvements to our species had already happened so there was little to be gained by inbreeding and letting the environment pick the very few winners. From that point on, incest became bad for the species. Reverse imprinting and social custom then came to oppose the practice as indeed they do today.

        Nobody excused rape as a western or modern practice. It was, however, an early way to achieve greater genetic diversity IN THE DISTANT PAST and helped us get where we are today.

        Both practices are relatively frequent in some non-western societies today. None of those societies is even close to the level of success of the west and that fact is not unconnected to the frequency of those practices.

  2. Looked up from treadmill screen at gym this afternoon, saw the CNN headline, knew it was out of context, knew it would get King demoted anyway. King’s efforts to defend the unborn will be overlooked. His inartful wording will be fodder for the Left.

  3. I am a White Nationalist. That’s because I’m white and patriotic. All patriotic white French, Polish and Italian people are also just as terrible as I am. Oh, and all patriotic whites in Russia, the rest of the EU, globally……..

  4. And booze. Let’s not forget the booze.

    I wonder what percentage of pregnancies are due to incoherent Friday nights?

  5. Absolutely right! look at biblical story of Sodom and Gomorrah’s aftermath. Didn’t Lot’s daughters sleep with their father in order to repopulate the world?

  6. Rep King did not question how the terms “white supremacist” and “white nationalist” became offensive. Those are NYT edits. Rep King mused how the term “western civilization” had become offensive. That was the term the NYT conveniently grouped with the other two and then dropped altogether, changing the narrative and distorting the truth.

  7. I’m not pro life because of rape or incest. It’s a stupid argument when a DNC can be performed within hours of the attack. It prevents fertilisation from occurring.

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